February 2018 Newsletter
The present system of registration is as follows:
Rams: For registering a ram (lamb or yearling) must be by a registered sire and out of a registered dam if the dam was born from 2012 (S) onwards. If the dam was born in 2011 or earlier (L, M, P) it only need be from a registered flock. As these older ewes leave flocks, all registered rams will have registered sires and dams.
Ewes: For registering an ewe (lamb or yearling) must be by a registered sire and out of a dam from a registered flock. The dam may or may not be individually Registered Certificated and the individual identity of its sire and dam may not be known except that they are Llanwenogs from Registered Flocks.
The Society is faced with an increasing demand for individual pedigree certificates for females. In addition purchasers of sheep are having difficulty in persuading the vendor to register the sheep or provide the necessary information for the purchaser to register them. To issue certificates cost effectively requires the Society’s registration system to be compatible with Grass Roots, which needs the grand sire and grand dam to be on the system.
To help with this it has been agreed that older unregistered ewes can now be registered up to 30th September 2018 for £2 per head. In addition vendors, particularly at the Official Show and Sale will be asked to declare whether their females are Registered Certificated or Flock Registered.
It is also proposed that where identities of the grandsires and grand dams of females for registration are not known, they are entered as “Llanwenog” ram & “Flock Name” Ewe.
In this way over a period of time, the Society will move to a system where females for registration will have registered sires/grandsires and dams/grand dams. This will make issue of complete pedigree certificates straight forward and hopefully start to create a premium for registered stock.
RC Registered Certificated meaning that they have registered parents and a pedigree certificate can be produced.
FR Flock registered meaning that their parents are not registered but that they are from a registered flock i.e. the owner is a Member of the Society
LAUNCH OF THE LLANWENOG COMMEMORATIVE BOOKLET
NEWSLETTER WINTER 2017
Summer has been and gone since the last Newsletter – although not sure how many of us saw much sun. However, many of our Members have attended various Shows, and it has been a chance to catch up. It has been good to receive your pictures and results so that they can be shared on our Facebook page. There has certainly been an increase in communications within the Society over the last twelve months and hopefully this is what has assisted the Breed in a high number of new Members received.
August saw the Society’s Annual Show and Sale take place and despite reduced entries in the catalogue what a cracker of a day it was with prices achieving heights not seen in recent years with a day of non stop, free flowing bidding many of whom were new Buyers, being a pleasure to see
LLANWENOG SHEEP SOCIETY - 60yrs CELEBRATION
The Society is marking it’s 60th year at the forthcoming AGM, which is when the celebrations will commence at the dinner whereby a special cake is being prepared. Members are also in the process of writing an updated book on the, history of the breed and we hope to launch this book at the 2018 Royal Welsh Show. We will keep you updated of any other events during the year.
The 2016 Ewe Registrations have now been completed and printed. These are available to purchase for £4. If you wish to purchase a copy then please send me payment and I will post a copy to you.
CORRESPONDENCE FROM SOCIETY
Don’t forget to ensure that you tick in the Flock Returns whether you wish to receive your correspondence by Email or post. There has been a significant increase in those wanting by Email, which saves substantial costs to the Society. For those of you who keep computerised records, I am happy to accept your Ram/Ewe registrations in a spreadsheet, as long as they show the required information, rather than you having to transfer it all to our forms.
CHANGE OF DATE – AGM DAY
14TH NOVEMBER 2017
Don’t forget that the Flock Visit and AGM will now take place on Saturday, 14th November 2017.
Please see the enclosed forms for further information in respect of the Flock Visit to the Glwydwern Flock No 152.
The AGM will take place early evening followed by the Society’s dinner. Again, please see attached forms on how to book and what is available.
We hope to see both old and new members.
2018 Committee Meetings
17th January 2018
18th April 2018
20th June 2018
12th September 2018
2018 SHOW & SALE - 25th August 2018
2018 AGM - 10th November 2018
507 Drefach Morys Ioan Llandysul
508 Bwlch-y-Domen Tahnee Canon Newcastle Emlyn
509 Briarland Ms J V Clarke Chipping Norton
510 Cwm Cragen Mr P Ambrose Llandeilo
511 Hedge Rose Miss S E Rose Pumpsaint
512 Tanrhiw Mr D Beckley Cwrtnewydd
513 Mosslands G Dunbar & S Scott Moffat
514 Horn Hill Mr J L & Mrs L A Bentley Driffield
515 Nant Sara Miss C A Evans Newcastle Emlyn
516 Danethorpe Ms L C Page Newark
517 Y Glyn Macy Hughes & Richard Hughes Tenby
518 Shauns Mr E & Mrs M Downs Newcastle on Clun
519 Antares Mrs D Brown Beckford
520 Foldson Mr L Robertson Ystrad Meurig
521 Chwarel Mr S Diffey Llangollen
522 Dolaugwynion Mr A G & Mrs D M Bookham Llanwrda
29th September 2017 Ram Registration Closing Date
30th September 2017 Flockmaster and Whiteparish Entries Closing Date
1st October 2017 Society Membership Renewal
13th October 2017 Ewe Lamb Registration & Flock Return Closing Date
11th November 2017 AGM Annual Dinner and Flock Visit
Late November East of England Winter Primestock Festival
27th – 28th November 2017 Royal Welsh Winter Fair
National Wool Week
The National Wool Museum in Drefach Felindre is hosting a Woolly Day on Wednesday October 18th from 10 am - 3 pm. There's plenty to see including: Bluestone Rarebreeds (sheep), various wool related stalls, rep from The Wool Marketing Board, natural dye workshop and our Llanwenog Sheep Society stand. Do come along to this free event.
There will be a 'The Woolly Roadshow UK Wool Week Tour' around Wales, Scotland and England to promote our native breeds.
The tour starts on Monday 9th October at Castle Square, Caernarfon before moving on to Glasgow, Norwich, Exeter, London and Bakewell.
At each location they will have native local breeds of sheep on display alongside the roadshow. The aim is to promote British wool, British sheep and the RBST.
Our Member, Mike Parry-Jones of Byn-Moel Flock will have some of his Llanwenog Sheep on display in Carnarfon. If you are in the area, please support him.
Currently when a Ram is registered a Certificate is produced and sent to the owner. This Certificate should then be passed on to any new future owners. We would be grateful if you could ensure that this is done. Due to the high number of requests for duplicate Ram Certificates, there will now be a fee of £1 payable to cover the cost.
To date we have not been producing Ewe Certificates. However, with the introduction of Grassroots and an increase in the requests for an Ewe Certificate, it has been decided that we will produce these at a cost of £1 each. No Certificate will be generated upon registration, and there is no requirement that all ewes should have one.
Support Group AGM and Flock Visit 15th July 2017
Our flock visit and AGM had been widely publicised so it was great to see a large group of Llanwenog breeders and potential Llanwenog breeders from both sides of the border gathered at Charles Horton’s farm on Saturday 15th July. There was a great deal of traffic but we knew it wasn’t all headed for the flock visit as there was another event happening close by – the Fairford Air Tattoo. After the business of the Support Group AGM had been dealt with we made our way to Charles’s neighbours, Howard and Anne Ford, where we enjoyed cake and coffee before Howard explained how his system works. He rents a lot of land that is not connected and can be quite far from home so in the last outbreak of Foot & Mouth his ewes were stuck and he was unable to bring them home to lamb. This set him to look into how he could create a system that involved ewes lambing outdoors wherever they were with minimum intervention. He starts with a primitive ewe such as Manx Loaghtan or Soay, puts that to a Wiltshire Horn, then puts the resulting ewes to an Easycare ram resulting in a fairly large ewe requiring little intervention from him. The final stage is to put these ewes to a number of rams including Llanwenog. He uses no concentrate, rarely has to assist any lambing ewes, and has few losses at lambing. His aim is for each of his 2500 ewes to have a single lamb outdoors and rear it to weaning. It works and he is very pleased with the lambs from the Llanwenog rams which he gets from Charles. We saw a variety of ewes at all stages of his system, as well as lambs, some were quite young as with that number of ewes he staggers his lambing. The small boy in all of us may have been distracted from the sheep as we were treated to a personal fly past by the Red Arrows as they flew over the farmhouse as part of their display at the nearby Air Tattoo.
After a delicious lunch of Nell flock lamb followed by equally delicious deserts we were given a tour of the Nell flock. As well as approximately 750 ewes Charles has a pedigree herd of Beef Shorthorn cattle and a sizable arable operation.
On the sheep side of the business Charles crosses his Llanwenog ewes with a variety of rams including Abermax, Berichon, Highlander and Blue Face Leicester. The resulting cross bred ewes are then put to Abermax rams giving a fast growing fat lamb ready in less than 16 weeks. He also breeds his own Llanwenog replacements.
It was very interesting to see two different systems using the Llanwenog in different ways, Howard starts with a primitive breed and after cross breeding, uses the Llanwenog ram to give a fat lamb for market; Charles starts with Llanwenog ewes and after cross breeding with commercial rams ends with fat lambs for market. Both are very successful commercial businesses and it was good to see the Llanwenog as the basis for both operations.
Our thanks to our hosts for the day Howard and Anne Ford, and Charles and Jemima Horton.
We would be grateful if all Members could please complete and return your Flock Returns this year. This is just as an important element of being a Member as paying your subscriptions! It allows us to ensure that we have the most up to date contact information for you. If you have any problems in completing them then please do not hesitate to contact myself or your local Area Rep.
February 2018 Newsletter
As I write this some of you have lambed, some are in the middle with many not yet to start! I hope all goes well with you, despite this wet weather we seem to be having.
2017 proved to be another busy year for the Society, with a steady number of new Members throughout the year, which resulted in many sales taking place both privately and of course at the annual Show and Sale. The last couple of years has seen the Secretary receive many enquiries from new members looking to purchase stock, therefore, please ensure you keep her informed if you have stock for sale or wish to be contacted if enquiries are received.
The Society has booked the Breed Society’s stand for the Royal Welsh Spring Festival on the 19th and 20th May 2018 and also for the NSA Sheep Event 2018 at The Three Counties Showground in Malvern on 18th July 2018. If you will be attending either of these events, we would be grateful if you could spare some time to assist looking after the stand. If everyone gives some time, then it will be much less work for a few.
It was resolved at the last Working Committee that all Members who have an Email address will receive all communications from the Society via Email. All of our forms are available in ‘word’ version and can therefore be edited on screen without the need to print them. Online payments are becoming more popular and we are happy to accept these. Please ask the Secretary for bank details.
SOCIETY’S 60 YEARS CELEBRATIONS
As part of the Society’s celebrations, we will be launching an updated History book of the breed, covering the last 20 year’s since the previous book was produced. This book will be launched at this year’s Royal Welsh Show – further information will be provided closer to the time.
2018 Show and Sale - Saturday 25th August 2018
2018 Flock Visit - Saturday 10th November 2018, By kind invitation of the Parcyrhos Flock
Don’t forget the Competitions that the Society hold during the year. They are listed below together with the rules and requirements. There is something for everyone from the Photography Competition, with the possibility of your photo being used in the Society’s calendar, to a bit of additional friendly competition in the showring. Or for the more serious breeders, why not try the Flock Competition!
FLOCKMASTER QUALIFYING SHOWS
19th – 20th May 2018 Royal Welsh Spring Festival Show
15th – 17th June 2018 Three Counties, Malvern Show
7th July 2018 Monmouthshire Show
14th July 2018 Tivyside
23rd – 26th July 2018 Royal Welsh Show
4th August 2018 Cardigan County Show
4th August 2018 Caerwedros
10th August 2018 Lampeter Show
11th August 2018 Cwmsychbant
18th August 2018 Gorsgoch
1st September 2018 Llandysul Show
IMPORTANT DATES FOR YOUR DIARY
CLOSING DATES FOR 2018
1st June Lambing Competition
31st July Show & Sale Entries
31st August Photography Competition
1st September Flock Competition Entries
Working Committee Re-Election Applications
30th September Flock Master Competition
Whiteparish Shield Competition
1st October Membership Renewal
25th October Flock Return
Flock Visit & Society’s AGM & Dinner Bookings
30th November Ewe Lamb Registrations
SHEEP EAR TAGGING SYSTEM
Having gone around the alphabet yet again, and in order to tie in with the Grassroots system, the Working Committee have agreed that they will now adopt a numerical system rather than an alphabetical one. Therefore all sheep should now be registered as follows:-
Member Number/the Year/last five digits of the EID tag number
Therefore, Flock Number 1 will register this year’s lambs as:
Although it would be preferred if all registered sheep had this quoted on their tags, as it makes it easier for Members, especially new members, to identify the sheep. However, it has become apparent that many Members do not include their Member Number and the prefix on their tags and the Working Committee have agreed that it is not compulsory. However, when completing your Ewe or Ram Registration forms, all of the above need to be included.
I would be grateful to receive your Flock Profile, to be included in future Newsletters. You all have your own story to tell and which other Members may learn something from. Please pass on any news that you have that can be included in the next Newsletter. Look forward to seeing you all at the various events during 2018.
October 2016 Newsletter
I hope this Newsletter finds you all well! For those of you who attended the Shows over the summer, well done. You may have seen some results being posted on the Society's Facebook page. If you attend a Show please email me the results and I will post them on! It doesn't matter if you were in a mixed class. All results count!
Membership is due for renewal on 1st October of each year. Only paid members will be entered in the Flock Book this year.
If you prefer to use Email to forward documents such as ram/ewe registrations, and you wish to make payment online, please ensure you quote your Flock No and state what the payment is for or Email the Secretary to advise.
Friday 4th November 2016
7.30/8.00pm - Informal meeting/catch up at the Castle Green, Lampeter, SA48 7EF
Saturday 5th November 2016
10.15am - Visit to Newgate Flock No 99
1.00pm - Visit Llaethliw Vineyard
2.30pm - The Secretary - Grassroots
6.30pm - AGM
7.30pm - Dinner at Cefn Hafod Inn, Gorsgoch
Flock returns & Flock book
Please ensure you complete and return the enclosed Flock Returns by the due date of 19TH OCTOBER!
The Flock Book will be done after the AGM. Only paid members will be entered therein and sent a copy.
Remember you can advertise on the website. Either advertise your flock for a yearly fee of £20 or if you have sheep for sale £5 for a one off advert.
Please also refer to the website for forms or information. I will be endeavouring to ensure it is kept up to date as we go forward.
These will again be produced for 2017. They will be available for distribution at the AGM or by post. order form here.
The Society will be continuing to correspond more through Email in order to reduce the costs of postage etc. We are also happy to receive any registration forms via Email in order to save your postage, with payment made online!
Z will be the letter for registering Ram Lambs and Ewe Lambs for 2017. It would also be useful if you could include your Llanwenog Sheep Society’s Flock Number as well as your UK Number i.e.
UK123456 111 Z123
Sale at Shrewsbury
provided by David Henson
The dispersal sale of the Brithdir Flock of Llanwenogs took place at Shrewsbury Auction Centre on 24 July 2016 in conjunction with The Traditional, Native and Rare Breed Show And Sale. A large number of breeders had travelled long distances to attend the sale of 81 Lots and support Sylvia Henson and John Dalton, who are selling their farm due to ill health and relocating to the West Wales coast.
60 Ewes and their lambs with interesting bloodlines met keen trade with a top price of 155 gns to average £132.50.
17 Yearling ewes sold to 128gns to average £109.50
I Yearling Ram sold for 94 gns ( £98.70)
3 Aged Rams topped at 405gns to average £245
Melton Mowbray Sale
provided by David Henson
There was keen demand for Llanwenog females at the Tradional Native Breeds National Sale at Melton Mowbray on 10 September with buyers travelling from North Wales, Northumberland and Leicestershire. A number of potential buyers went home disappointed.
Top price of 220gns for yearling ewes went to Jill Bennett (Tallentire), who was dispersing her flock, followed by 160gns for A Hodges & Sons (Charndon).
Ewe lambs from David Henson (Bradden) sold to 100gns.
Averages 6 Yearling Ewes sold to 220gns (average £178.50)
2 Ewe Lambs sold to 100gns (average £92.12)
Auctioneers Melton Mowbray Market Auctioneers
Society's Annual Show & Sale at Llanybydder
provided by Dai Williams
The favourable ensured that there was a definite buoyant feeling at the 57th annual Llanwenog Sheep Sale and Show held at Llanybydder Mart on 27thAugust 2016. With stock selling to customers as far afield as Cumbria the popularity of the breed is encouraging. It was refreshing to see a number of newcomers attend the sale; this can only be described as being an undeniable positive for the Society and the sustenance of the breed.
Mr Henson, chose the reigning Royal Welsh Champion the Alltgoch Ram exhibited by Huw Evans as his Champion which sold for£530. Champion Ewe was the well matured yearling presented by the Society’s President, Mr E Morgans of the Glwydwern Flock selling for £32 above average for £130.
The ever popular Young handler classes were well supported, being presented with the Bradden Cup for Champion Young Handler was Miss Evans of the Penrherber Flock.
Of the 196 animals presented a total of 150 were sold. Top of the sale at £640 was the eye catching Alltgoch Ram who was presented to a high standard by Huw Evans, who has attained top price slot for the last 5 years. Top price for the opposite sex went to the delightful yearling from Coedyfoel superbly turned out by David Pittendreigh who sold for £135.
4 Aged Rams were forward selling with an average of £420.
10 Yearling Rams forward averaging £326
7 Ram Lambs forward with an average of £280
The grand number of 82 Ewes were presented with an average of £98.00
51 Ewe Lambs forward averaging £64.00
Auctioneers: Evans Bros
The Society have now organised a supplier to provide us with a range of clothing with the Society's logo endorsed thereon. All orders will be made to order and therefore your Flock name etc can be added. order form.
Most of you will be aware by now that the Society have invested in the Grassroots system. This is a database specifically for Breed Societies to keep all their information in one place and to be able to extract relevant information/reports as and when required. However, it will only throw out what we have put in!
Therefore, when I receive all your Flock Returns this year, they will be entered on Grassroots and this will update all member's information. We will also be recording all paid Membership. If Membership is paid, it keeps you in the 'current' list and you will continue receiving all correspondence from the Society and will be included when we run the Flock Book report. However, any non-paid members will automatically be put in the 'lapsed' list and will not receive any further communication until payment of Membership is received. It will also mean that you will be unable to register sheep etc. This is something that was not easy to be able to keep track of previously and therefore some members may have paid membership late but still been able to register!
With regards the sheep registrations. The last 20 years of sheep registrations have been entered on the system! However, they are entered and currently attached to the flock who originally registered them. In order to get the system accurate, we need to get everyone's flock on Grassroots to match the actual flock in the field! Therefore, enclosed, is a printout from Grassroots of the list of sheep it currently thinks you have! Please go through the list and cross off anything that you no longer have. If you've sold them, just mark it sold (I don't need to know who to) and if you know it has died, please mark it as this! Please then add anything you have in the field which is not on this printout. Please note that I have not entered any of this year's registrations on the system yet and if you have sent them to me, no need for you to add them to this printout. For some Members, this is not going to be an easy task and therefore there is no time limit to receive these back, however, the sooner you do it, the sooner your Flock on Grassroots will be up to date and easy to manage!
From 1st October 2016, In order to keep your flock on Grassroots up to date you need to advise the Secretary when you have sold any stock and to which Member or just note to Non-Member. This can be done via Email, text or post. I understand that there is enough paperwork associated with movement, there is no time limit to advise the Secretary. You can request an Email version of your Grassroots Flock at any time.
19TH OCTOBER 2016 - This is the date that the various forms enclosed need to be returned to me by!
5TH NOVEMBER 2016 - AGM WEEKEND and all Ewe or Ram Registrations if you wish them to be included in this year's Flock Book/Ewe Registration booklets